Interview with Collapse Life, July 11, 2025

Many thanks to Zahra and Stephen from the Collapse Life podcast for this interview, in which we covered: * the bigger picture regarding the “Covid-19” operation and its role in initiating the war for technocracy;* the conditions that enabled the “Covid-19” operation, namely, the globalization of class relations, “9/11” and the hollowing out liberal democracy in a millennium of fear; and the stalling of existing control systems in the years leading up to 2020;* the protection motif, weaponized in Nazi Germany, again after “9/11,” and again in 2020 — the control system rests on deception; * the social contract is broken beyond repair, with states attacking their own citizens, meaning that centuries-old political traditions are now ending; * “rules for thee but not for me” — ruling class hypocrisy during the Covid era that, nevertheless, failed to make most people realize that they were being lied to, owing to the many-levelled psychological attack on populations transnationally; * applied behavioral psychology, which targets the “Automatic Brain” and thus allows for manipulation at the unconscious level; * the failure of intellectuals and the professional classes — supposedly intelligent people were the first to succumb to the “Covid-19” operation, because they have been socialized not to challenge power; * dual use technologies, involving military partnership with the civilian sector — has anyone at Cambridge University’s Internet of Everything Centre properly thought through the implications of linking everything with everything?;* moral failure vs. “ethics committees”;* the role of Oxford University in the Covid tyranny and “vaccine” propaganda; * my “three camps of awareness” framework and the unfortunate enormity of Camp 2 relative to Camp 3; * the difficulty of reaching Camp 1, which lacks the necessary tools to identify and challenge propaganda and psychological operations — hence the need to spread knowledge and awareness of the methods used;* the methods of Camp 2 are often similar to those used in Camp 1 — we must teach people to see and identify them; * the fact that people can move backwards and forwards between camps (including co-optation back from Camp 3 to Camp 2) makes this a very complex and confusing terrain; * the effectiveness of psy-ops in continually dividing dissident opinion, e.g. Ukraine, Israel/Palestine, fracturing what was emerging as an increasingly unified front against the official “Covid-19” narrative; * continuities from “Covid-19” to today — the Omniwar is ongoing, deceptively, against all of us; * technocracy is installing itself fast — resistance is essential;* possibilities for resistance, withdrawal of consent to all aspects of technocracy, challenging the technologies involved (including ditching the smartphone);* everyone is answerable to their own conscience;* the nature of the Omniwar means that everyone can make a difference; everyone can resist in one form or another; this is the time to take action;* the psychological warfare of 2020/21 means that reclaiming one’s own mental sovereignty is fundamental;* why the technocrats will ultimately fail. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dhughes.substack.com/subscribe