#243 - Nobody fails like a winner fails

Troy Azmoon, Vice President, Platform and Product Design at ServiceNow joins me to share his intriguing journey through Engineering, Product, and Design. You will enjoy his analogies of how he brings creative thinking into hard core engineering work. He brings another intriguing concept as a leader that in order to be successful, we need to learn to say NO to our ego, our preferences in service of the bigger Mission.