Ep 133: James Holland on World War II in Italy, 1943

James Holland, author of The Savage Storm: The Battle for Italy 1943 and host of the We Have Ways of Making You Talk podcast, joins the show to talk about the Allied campaign in Italy. ▪️ Times      •      02:08 Introduction      •      04:23 “No greater moment of human drama…”     •      11:08 Why go into Italy at all?     •      18:24 Mission to Rome       •      29:33 Baytown and Avalanche     •      32:10 Salerno     •      36:25 rethinking Mark Clark     •      40:50 Very hard fighting       Follow along  on Instagram Find a transcript of today’s episode on our School of War Substack