Episode 21: Combating Extremism in the Ranks, Part 3 of 3

Episode 21 is the final of our three-part series on extremism in the Army. After speaking with soldiers for part 1 and the senior civilian in the Army for part 2, today we’ve got two experts on the show: Brian Carr, an Army lawyer, and Rob Payne, an FBI Special Agent and Colonel in the Army Reserves. This episode’s first guest, Brian Carr is an Army lieutenant colonel from Denton, Texas who commissioned into the Army as an aviator in 2003. Six years later he became an Army lawyer through the Funded Legal Education Program. Today he serves as the Chief of Administrative and Civil Law for the XVIII Airborne Corps. Our second guest, Rob Payne, a Supervisory Special Agent with the FBI since 2008, has investigated and studied soldier radicalization for years. In fact, last year as a resident student at the U.S. Army War College, he completed a strategy research project titled “Radicalization within the Ranks: Countering Military Extremism.” Before the FBI, Robert was commissioned into the Army as an active duty Medical Service Corps Officer in 1999. He transitioned to the Army Reserves in 2003. A DEA Special Agent from 2004 to 2008, he began serving in FBI domestic counterterror missions in 2008. Rob was born in Shreveport, Louisiana, and graduated from Texas A&M with a bachelor’s degree in psychology. The 18th Airborne Corps Podcast is the official podcast of the U.S. Army’s 18th Airborne Corps. Recorded on Fort Bragg, North Carolina, the program highlights news items, current events, new initiatives, and the history of the 18th Airborne Corps. If you have a question for the show’s host, please send a note to [email protected].