BEYOND THE RED ZONE: CLAM SLAMS, NIL, MIKE GUNDY, and JUSTICE vs VENGEANCE

Welcome to our podcast, where today we delve into a heated topic that's currently stirring the sports world: the controversy surrounding Oklahoma State head coach Mike Gundy's handling of star running back Ollie Gordon's recent DUI arrest. This issue has sparked significant debate among sports journalists, pundits, and fans alike. Gordon, who blew a .10—above Oklahoma's legal limit of .08—was not suspended by Gundy, who instead defended his decision in a way that has raised many eyebrows.   ### The Controversy   Mike Gundy's approach to Gordon's DUI has been criticized for being too lenient. Gundy argued that Gordon's weight of around 215 pounds meant that a blood alcohol level of .10 was equivalent to consuming 3-4 beers, and he admitted to having driven after drinking that amount himself. He did not suspend Gordon, suggesting instead that facing the media in a public apology would be a more effective form of punishment than missing football games. Gundy's comments also seemed to indirectly criticize the NCAA's new Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) policy, suggesting that the influx of money to players should come with increased accountability.   ### The Larger Issue   This situation brings up several important questions about justice, punishment, and the impact of money in college sports:   **Justice vs. Vengeance:** There's a fine line between justice and vengeance. In the context of college sports, what constitutes a fair and just punishment for athletes who break the law? Is suspending a player for multiple games the right approach, or are there more effective ways to handle such situations?   **Impact of NIL:** Gundy’s comments highlight a growing concern among coaches and administrators about the influence of money on college athletes’ behavior. Does the new NIL policy complicate the disciplinary process for college athletes? Are players more likely to disregard rules because they feel financially empowered?   **Moralizing vs. Justice:** Are we more concerned with moralizing athletes’ behavior than we are with actual justice? In this case, is the outrage directed more at Gundy’s perceived leniency or at the need to uphold a standard of behavior?   **Player Mobility:** If Gordon were suspended, would he consider transferring to escape the consequences and stigma of his DUI? How does the potential for transferring impact the way coaches discipline their players?   ### Perspectives   **Supporters of Gundy’s Decision:** Some may argue that Gundy’s approach, which focuses on public accountability rather than game suspension, is a more modern and constructive form of punishment. It forces the player to confront the consequences of their actions directly and publicly.   **Critics of Gundy’s Decision:** Others believe that failing to suspend Gordon sends the wrong message about the seriousness of DUI offenses. They argue that athletes should be held to high standards of conduct, and that suspensions serve as an important deterrent.   **Impact on Team Dynamics:** How does a coach’s disciplinary decision affect team dynamics and the overall morale of the team? Is there a risk of creating a double standard or fostering resentment among players?  Thank you guys again for taking the time to check this out. We appreciate each and everyone of you. If you have the means, and you feel so inclined, BECOME A PATRON! We're creating patron only programing, you'll get bonus content from many of the episodes, and you get MERCH!   Become a patron now https://www.patreon.com/join/BitterLakePresents?   Please also like, subscribe, and follow us on these platforms as well, (specially YouTube!)   THANKS Y'ALL   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG9WtLyoP9QU8sxuIfxk3eg Twitch: www.twitch.tv/thisisrevolutionpodcast www.twitch.tv/leftflankvets​ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Thisisrevolutionpodcast/ Twitter: @TIRShowOakland Instagram: @thisisrevolutionoakland   Read Jason Myles in Sublation Magazine https://www