On Fossil Fuels: Professor Gail Whiteman, Vanessa Nakate, Eriel Tchekwie Deranger and Tom B.K. Goldtooth

For this bonus episode, Lily explores the issue at the centre of the climate crisis: fossil fuels. Lily also looks at green washing, and the new dangers posed by net-zero pledges. Lily shares insider access - and analysis of the infamous Edinburgh TED Countdown Summit from October 2021, where CEO of Shell Ben van Beurden was pressed on the company’s recently released ‘greenwashed’ net-zero plans, eliciting the first ever TED protest.  After an emotional event that saw youth activists leave in protest, Lily is keen to revisit the discussion and give climate science more air-time. So for this episode, she spoke to Professor Gail Whiteman - one of the scientists who analysed Shell’s “Sky Scenario” and interrupted the TED talk to challenge van Beurden’s plans.  Lily also includes the voices of indigenous leaders, Eriel Tchekwie Deranger and Tom B.K. Goldtooth, who discuss the effects of fossil fuel companies on their land, and climate activist Vanessa Nakate Thanks to TED for their permission to include this talk in the episode, you can find the full talk via this link Thanks to Joe Lycett for letting us include his advert Joe Lycett Vs The Oil Giant | The Ad Shell Would NEVER Make For more on Eriel Tchekwie Deranger please follow her work on Indigenous Climate Action. For more on Tom B.K. Goldtooth please follow his work at Indiginous Rising and the Indigenous Environmental Network. For more on Vanessa Nakate please follow activism over on Twitter For more on the Stop Cambo campaign, mentioned by Lauren MacDonald, please visit their website To learn more about Christiana Figueres, check out her book: The Future We Choose And to learn more about the team of scientists among Professor Gail Whiteman at Arctic Basecamp, please visit the website. Music featured in the episode by Cosmo Sheldrake: Wriggle and Wake Up Calls, featuring recordings of endangered birds in Britain.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Some of today’s most topical issues polarise people. In Who Cares Wins with Lily Cole, Lily invites guests with different perspectives to explore critical issues - and their relationship to the environment - from technology, food, to mental health and capitalism. Who Cares Wins with Lily Cole encourages us to listen deeply, and choose optimism.